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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 11:54
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Am i even allowed to talk football (or soccer as americans seem to insist on calling it  ) here? well i don't care..Ajax has made it to the Champions league! and this time they'll win for sure!! eat your heart out, Austrian football fans  [ Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:24: Message edited by: Borc ] -------------------- Many an ancient lord's last words have been, "You can't kill me because I've got magic aaargh." -Terry Pratchet ---- "Never build a dungeon you wouldn't be happy to spend the night in yourself. The world would be a happier place if more people remembered that." -Lord Vetinari Posts: 49 | Registered: Monday, August 25 2003 07:00 |
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Warrior
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 12:01
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Good for you!(i think)and i think you can talk about it... -------------------- Hello.Nice To Meet You.Call Me OM.Bye. Posts: 64 | Registered: Monday, August 11 2003 07:00 |
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Guardian
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 14:50
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quote:I never could figure that one out. And what they call football rarely uses the feet for more than something to use while running. If the kicked the strange lemon "ball" around to the goal, then maybe it would be more deserving of the name, but they don't. Instead the like to run around while holding it and throwing it to one another(which they do far more than the select few times they kick it to the goal). Just another example of how screwed up the US is. Posts: 1918 | Registered: Sunday, October 13 2002 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 14:57
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How very true, Mars! just for that, i'll reward you with 5 karma point from me.  -------------------- Many an ancient lord's last words have been, "You can't kill me because I've got magic aaargh." -Terry Pratchet ---- "Never build a dungeon you wouldn't be happy to spend the night in yourself. The world would be a happier place if more people remembered that." -Lord Vetinari Posts: 49 | Registered: Monday, August 25 2003 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 20:09
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Well, anyone here can tell you that I'm never one to argue when it comes to complaining about America, and I agree that "football" is kind of a weird name for it, but I have yet to understand why Brits pronounce it "leftenant" instead of "lieutenant." Over here in the Yee-haw USA, we just pronounce it the way it's spelled. And then there's the practice of adding extraneous U's to stuff. "Colour," "favourite," et cetera. Fewer letters means fewer typos...just something to ponder... -------------------- "Man hands down misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, and don't have any kids yourself."--Philip Larkin, "This Be the Verse" Fear the wrath of the Grammar Wench, lest ye be cut down by the Glistening Scythe. Posts: 1150 | Registered: Friday, May 17 2002 07:00 |
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Shake Before Using
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 20:19
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If you typo by omitting the extra "u", in a way, you have not made an error at all. Posts: 3234 | Registered: Thursday, October 4 2001 07:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Wednesday, August 27 2003 22:58
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quote:Apparently, this pronunciation arose because U and V were once interchangeable, and people unaware of the word's origins pronounced it "levtenant", which quickly became "leftenant" because voicing that V is awkward. quote:Neither spelling looks much like the actual pronunciation. In some ways, standardised spelling has done the English language a great disservice. Then again, it seems as if every language has to have something to make it unnecessarily difficult to learn. Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 01:37
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Wow, Ajax had such a difficult draw. You barely made it, too. I definitely think that PSV is going to run away with the Dutch title this year. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Vahnatai Did Do It desperance.net - We're Everywhere The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Agent
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 03:58
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We didn't add the extra "u" to things. You took it out. -------------------- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. Posts: 1277 | Registered: Sunday, December 9 2001 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 05:47
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Yeah, you're right. But it seems easier to just have fewer letters, and we Americans are lazy asses.  -------------------- "Man hands down misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, and don't have any kids yourself."--Philip Larkin, "This Be the Verse" Fear the wrath of the Grammar Wench, lest ye be cut down by the Glistening Scythe. Posts: 1150 | Registered: Friday, May 17 2002 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 08:13
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Most of the 'irregularities' in English English stem from Dark Age invasions by Angles and Danes (e.g. the 'w' in 'sword') or later Norman invasion, and make perfect sense in those languages. American English was 'rationalised' (inverted commas included for the sake of neutrality) relatively recently, by the Hoover administration in the 1930s, and would have been thought 'wrong' (divergent from English English) even by Americans before then. Returning to the general subject, the footie season has started in UK too. Being some sort of pervert, I don't follow the game, but understand nothing on Earth (e.g. SW conventions) is going to stop footie fans talking with boundless enthusiasm about the centre of their universe once they get started. Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00 |
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Agent
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 08:19
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Manchester City are doing remarkably well so far, but this is the season that Tottenham are going to start kicking some serious arse!!! -------------------- I say never be complete. I say stop being perfect. I say let's evolve. Let the chips fall where they may. Posts: 1277 | Registered: Sunday, December 9 2001 08:00 |
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Babelicious
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 08:38
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Do limeys call donkeys arses too? -------------------- You are my precious thing Thing of speed and beauty, You are my precious thing As long as you remain beneath me -- Big Black Posts: 999 | Registered: Friday, June 27 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 10:29
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quote:I'm afraid you're right about PSV  But Ajax only barely made it because they are lazy.. once they're up against Milan they'll be focused, and they'll play a lot better then PSV does in the Champioins league. too bad they never keep it up in the dutch competition though. oh and X, you're right, you can't stop me but i want you know that i actually rarely talk football.-------------------- Many an ancient lord's last words have been, "You can't kill me because I've got magic aaargh." -Terry Pratchet ---- "Never build a dungeon you wouldn't be happy to spend the night in yourself. The world would be a happier place if more people remembered that." -Lord Vetinari Posts: 49 | Registered: Monday, August 25 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 11:01
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*sigh* Not Tottenham again. Helder Postiga is a Kevin Davies/Corrado Grabbi. Robbie Keane is injured far too often. Zamora is unproven in the premiership. Convey isn't ready. Glenn Hoddle has no idea what he's doing, either. Playing attractive soccer isn't easy when you have such a weak back line (with Carr as the notable exception). Roman Abromovich has done a lot with Chelsea, but they've come off lackluster in the last few performances because they haven't gelled yet. And because Ranieri keeps playing Duff on the right. Blackburn, my team, are off to a decent start. If we can get the Babbel, Baggio, and Ferguson signings completed, we can compete in the UEFA Cup as well as the league. Amoruso and Emerton have started well, but Taylor has been poor and Gresko and Neill have been inconsistent. If Souness goes back to playing Thompson on the left or in the middle, Blackburn will have a proven match winner and someone who steps up in important games. This Saturday's game against Chelsea will say a lot about the rest of the season. Oh, and Citeh have started extremely well. Anelka has finally found a decent partner in Sibierski, and Wright-Phillips has been a revelation on the right. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Vahnatai Did Do It desperance.net - We're Everywhere The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 14:04
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I don't really follow English football, except maybe to see how the dutch players there are doing, especially Ruud at MU (no, not Magic User) offcourse. -------------------- Many an ancient lord's last words have been, "You can't kill me because I've got magic aaargh." -Terry Pratchet ---- "Never build a dungeon you wouldn't be happy to spend the night in yourself. The world would be a happier place if more people remembered that." -Lord Vetinari Posts: 49 | Registered: Monday, August 25 2003 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 14:52
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Well, in the Dutch leagues I'm a big fan of Kezman, who's a very exciting player. Ibrahimovich is good for Ajax too, and I like Roda's big center back. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Vahnatai Did Do It desperance.net - We're Everywhere The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shock Trooper
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written Thursday, August 28 2003 15:53
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Grumble, I don't like football (round-ball kind). It's the only game the Brits seem to be able to beat us at. Maybe if FIFA let us into the Cup without having to fight some South American team for a spot then it might get some serious following here, but as it is, football is nowhere near as popular as leage, rugby or even (god forbid) shirt tearing AFL (which shares some similar aspects to football - hot pants ).Our women's footie team kicks arse, but as long as we haven't got a spot in the World Cup, footy is going nowhere in Australia. Damn you FIFA, you win this time. Md. Posts: 304 | Registered: Monday, October 1 2001 07:00 |
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Triad Mage
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written Friday, August 29 2003 01:36
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Well, if you can't beat the fifth-best South American team, then you don't deserve to go. Your squad has a lot of talent, but I think that they're too pretty and not rough enough. Need Paul Ince in his prime, or a Graeme Souness-type. -------------------- "At times discretion should be thrown aside, and with the foolish we should play the fool." - Menander ==== Drakefyre's Demesne - Vahnatai Did Do It desperance.net - We're Everywhere The Arena - God Will Sort The Dead ==== You can take my Mac when you pry my cold, dead fingers off the mouse! Posts: 9436 | Registered: Wednesday, September 19 2001 07:00 |
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Shaper
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written Friday, August 29 2003 04:48
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'Arse' is at least a Middle English word for the posterior - Chaucer used it in 'Canterbury Tales' and I bet others can find earlir usages. 'Ass' seems a dumb name for this celebrated portion of the body - I mean, what's the connection between it and the equine? On football, I do hope Man U. don't do well, simply because too many people support them just because they like to be on the winning side, and would show no such loyalty if they were at the bottom of the League and not the top. Whilst Chelsea have got the technique to match 'em (unlimited funds to buy players...hm), their fans are notorious horrible (Headhunters, etc - apologies to Chelsea fans also embarassed by them), so I find it difficult to wish them well - even against Man U. [ Friday, August 29, 2003 04:48: Message edited by: X ] Posts: 2333 | Registered: Monday, January 7 2002 08:00 |
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Infiltrator
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written Friday, August 29 2003 09:48
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quote:Do you have to play against the fift South American team?? If so then its very likely you will play against my country (Chile), since we have had quite a bad presentation in the last games, one of the worst was the one before Korea/Japan where we ended up last, out of the 10 South American teams!! while usually the teams who made it to the world cups where...in this order... Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile. What I realy regret is that our first game will be against our eternal rivals the Argentinians in Buenos Aires itself...so we are just hoping, fingers crossed, we dont get runned over. Talking about world cups, ever noticed how americans name some american "football" and baseball games "World Cups" when actually they and a handfull of others are the only ones who play it? Also, why do they call themselves "americans"? Im american to you know. My guess is that "United Statian" sounds to weird. -------------------- "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work, I want to achieve it through not dying." Posts: 469 | Registered: Thursday, May 1 2003 07:00 |
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Apprentice
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written Friday, August 29 2003 09:58
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I don't hope Man U. does either well or bad.. i'm quite neutral towards them untill they have to play a dutch team which i believe would be Ajax again if they both make it to the semi-finals.I'm sure looking forward to sept 19, when Ajax will meet Milan again. I'm watching Milan playing Porto now by the way! (Supercup, 1-0 for Milan at the moment) [ Friday, August 29, 2003 09:59: Message edited by: Borc ] -------------------- Many an ancient lord's last words have been, "You can't kill me because I've got magic aaargh." -Terry Pratchet ---- "Never build a dungeon you wouldn't be happy to spend the night in yourself. The world would be a happier place if more people remembered that." -Lord Vetinari Posts: 49 | Registered: Monday, August 25 2003 07:00 |
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This Side Towards Enemy
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written Friday, August 29 2003 12:38
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Baseball is rarely played outside America and Cuba. And if you think America wants Cuba (or rather its government) on this world, you are sorely mistaken. -------------------- Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned I'll tell you my story, man Though I wish I'd never been born I'm loose at the seams, I've broken my dreams And my hand it shakes the pen Come on, come on now baby, Let the good times roll again Posts: 961 | Registered: Thursday, June 12 2003 07:00 |
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...b10010b...
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written Saturday, August 30 2003 15:30
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quote:I blame Shakespeare. He used an ass/arse pun in Midsummer Night's Dream. I believe the "ass" and "arse" spellings of the word were interchangeable for quite some time before that, though. Djur: We spell it with an R because that's how we pronounce it. [ Saturday, August 30, 2003 15:32: Message edited by: Thuryl ] Posts: 9973 | Registered: Saturday, March 30 2002 08:00 |
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Lifecrafter
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written Saturday, August 30 2003 16:15
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Baseball is a Ring of Fire game, the US, Mexico, Caribbean, and the rest of Latin America, as well as Korea, the Phillipeans and Japan play baseball. Japan is even more into Baseball than the US. -------------------- I am not really here. Posts: 956 | Registered: Wednesday, January 16 2002 08:00 |